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Zui Quan

Postby Sojiro on Tue Dec 04, 2007 2:52 pm

This is a style I learned from my grandfather many years ago. I was wondering if there was anyone else on the site who has heard of or studied Zui Quan?
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Postby clyon on Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:41 pm

I have never heard of it. I would be very intertested in hearing about it if you would like to share. It's great you learned an art from your Grandfather. How old were when you started learning from him? I would like to teach my Grandson but he is young and undisciplined right now. Anyone know what I might do to get a 5 year old started.
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Postby Hayashishodan on Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:33 pm

Clyon in answer to your question. I have several in that age bracket and really none of them have a very long attention span. The first thing we do is let them run a bit to get out some of that extra energy so they can calm down a bit and learn. Mix it up a lot and keep it very active. Try not to focus on anything deep or any one thing too long. Good luck
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Postby Sojiro on Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:11 am

I was 4 yrs. old when I first started my training from my grandfather and father. I have learned since being in America that people in this country are very different in attitude and discipline than in China. I have always been for starting training at a young age.
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Postby Sojiro on Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:29 pm

There many different styles of Zui Quan, but the style I study is based on the 8 drunken immortals. Here is small history of the style.

Drunken Boxing' techniques are based on the legend of the 'The Eight Drunken Immortals' of the Taoist Sect from Chinese Mythology. Each of the techniques in the Drunken Set demonstrates an attribute of one of the Immortals: Lu, the Drunkard With Internal Strength; Cripple Li, the Drunkard with the Powerful Right Leg; Fat Han, the Drunkard Holding a Large Pot in His Arms; Lan, the Drunkard With a Deadly Waist Attack; Chang, the Drunkard With Swift Double Kicks; Tso, the Drunkard With the Powerful Throat Lock; Flute Player Han, the Drunkard with Powerful Wrists; and Miss Ho; the Drunk Woman Flaunting Her Body. These "elements" from all eight Immortals' styles are combined to form a beautiful and effective fighting art.

Drunken boxing includes almost everything contained in any other kung-fu style and above all that it contains a deceptive philosophy. As the pugilist staggers about, he or she is concentrating on creating momentum and avoiding attacks with the style's trademark unorthodox adaptive moves; for example, if someone is going to push the pugilist, he or she rolls over his arms and hits him, and sometimes sinks his or her weight upon him, according to the situation.

The secret behind Drunken style kung fu is the sudden release of power from awkward positions. The agile footwork enables the exponent to totter, sway and fall without harm, confusing his opponent, rising up on the tips of his toes then dropping to low, crouched positions. The hand-form which is readily identified with the Drunken style is the Cup-Holding hand-form.

There are two kinds of Drunken Boxing, traditional and contemporary. Traditional Drunken Boxing is fight oriented. Contemporary Wushu Drunken Boxing is acrobatic and is very different from the Traditional Drunken Boxing. Contemporary Wushu exaggerates its drunken appearance, so much so that anyone actually under the influence of alcohol would have a tough time performing such actions. Traditional Drunken Boxing also involves stumbling and staggering, but not to such an extreme as Contemporary Wushu Drunken Boxing.
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Postby clyon on Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:00 pm

Thanks for the advice Hayashishodan, I' ll try it out for sure. That's very interesting Sojiro. Is it true that you can use Drunken Boxing effectively even when you are actually drunk?
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Postby Sojiro on Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:17 am

Yes to a certain level. The alcohol actually helps in the style, also by nature alcohol enables the body to use more power and strength in each blow. Also it helps raise the pain which the body can take and still be in fighting shape. But, there is a very thin line between the limit to be used and actually being drunk. You have to train your mind and body to react and know by instinct where that limit is and stop the drinking before there is too much in your system.
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Postby Rick on Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:29 am

Sojiro wrote:Yes to a certain level. The alcohol actually helps in the style, also by nature alcohol enables the body to use more power and strength in each blow. Also it helps raise the pain which the body can take and still be in fighting shape. But, there is a very thin line between the limit to be used and actually being drunk. You have to train your mind and body to react and know by instinct where that limit is and stop the drinking before there is too much in your system.


Actually I have heard of the art and no the alchol does not increase power nor strength.

Two different people I came across in this style, their "supposed" instructors did NOT teach to the youth. And, after interviewung and research, found many interesting things

Though I invite your membership and posts, I have doubts on that particular art.
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Re: Zui Quan

Postby tsingtaoster on Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:22 pm

Sojiro wrote:This is a style I learned from my grandfather many years ago. I was wondering if there was anyone else on the site who has heard of or studied Zui Quan?

where did you go? come back and tell us more about it
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